Cab Service — Things that suck in Vancouver

One thing to rant about in Vancouver is taxi service. In my discussions with others about taxis in Vancouver, I’ve never once seen a situation where people were wowed by service or where those who I talked to had good things to say about the service.

Of all the companies in Vancouver, I now have limited my choice to one company which seems to do okay. They’re a smaller firm so sometimes the cabs take longer to come. This blog is a discussion on some of the malapropos behaviour I’ve seen from some cabbies in the city, outside of the unusual driving, foul language, foul smells, and the likes one may be subjected to while taking this form of transportation.

Company: McLure’s Taxi
Phone Number: +1 (604) 731-9211
Comment: Raj’s favourite, these guys are reliable and the drivers are professional

Company: Yellow Cab
Phone Number: +1 (604) 681-1111
Comment: Drivers can be unprofessional

Company: Black Top / Checker Cabs
Phone Number: +1 (604) 681-3201
Comment: Drivers can be unprofessional

Company: Vancouver Taxi
Phone Number: +1 (604) 871-1111
Comment: Drivers can be unprofessional

So, where to start? Well, I take the cab almost every day. One of the biggest issues I find is that the wait time for a taxi can sometimes unbearable. My rule of thumb is to call one company and if I have to wait for more than 15 minutes, I’ll call a second company and continue the cycle. Living on Robson Street (and in close proximity to the Westin Bayshore) also gives me the ability to flag a cab if I happen to see one.

Today I initially called Yellow Cab and then McLure’s. The Yellow Cab arrived after 20 minutes of waiting, so after getting into the car, I called McLure’s to cancel the trip since I had alternate travel arrangements. No problem with the dispatcher, they’re good that way. … the rest of the trip, however, was a pain in the ass. Mr. Cab Driver decided to lecture me about how he has to make a living and how unfair it is to call two companies since you’re wasting the time of at least one driver. Also how the cab company will black list me for such behaviour.

  • Tip #1 for cabbies: I’m calling to cancel and there’s more demand than supply. You can pick up anyone off the street anytime. I depend on your service for MY livelihood and if you can’t make it to me within a fifteen minutes, I’m damn well going to call another cab company, because you cannot deliver.

Another incident to speak about was where I was waiting for a cab, approx. 20 minutes this time. I’m waiting on Robson Street looking to flag down a vehicle. The cab driver asked why I was waiting accross the street. I told him that I was looking to flag. He gets pissed off and tells me that I should either be looking to take a car that I called or cancel the call and then look to flag. My response was that my time is valuable and I have no idea whether the cab was coming or not.

  • Tip #2 for cabbies: I do not want to hear you lecturing me because you made the effort to come out to my place. I’m the one being inconvenienced here by your shitty-ass non-customer-centric viewpoint.

Oh, and then there’s the normally jovial cab ride. Cabbies in Vancouver make alot of money. It’s reported from my friends who work at the bank that it’s mostly owners of individual taxi licenses who are buying up big properties around Vancouver. Don’t be fooled people, these folks are making money hand over fist, next time you’re in, just ask. So, I did once. The cab driver mentioned to me that he likes to deal in cash and in the event someone pays with credit card, he’s likely to not pick up that person again.

One time I had to make a number of stops or errands. Hey, it’s bonus money for the cab, isn’t it? A stop at Van Lawn to pick up some tickets, a stop at Royal Bank to make a deposit, a stop at the office to pick up mail. All short stops. After the third stop, however, the cabbie informed me that he would not make any more stops for me, so I had to take another cab. So I paid by credit card and didn’t leave a tip. The cab driver was furious, he sent along some nice parting words.

  • Tip #3 for cabbies: Sometimes I have to pay with credit. I wonder what you’re doing with all that cash? I wonder if the CRA is wondering the same thing?
  • Bonus tip for cabbies: TIP stands for To Insure Promptness. It also is awarded as a result of service provided outside the call of regular duty. I don’t give a shit if you expect a tip. I’m going to pay you based on how I perceive the trip to have went, and trust me, I’m tipping less and less nowadays. At the same time, you think I’m going to choose your company next time it comes to me calling for service? Hell NO!

So what’s the solution? There really needs to be more cabs on the road here in Vancouver. The density is increasing, there are less parking lots and the options are slim. There’s maybe four or five companies that service the area.

What prompted this? Well, I’ve taken cabs in many places around the world. It’s never been so bad as I’ve seen it in Vancouver, granted, I take this form of transportation ALOT. I recently read an article from Terrie’s Take #381 which reminded me of how good things are in Tokyo:

Riding in one of Tokyo’s ubiquitous cabs the other night, we had an interesting reminder of just how different Japan can be. This particular cab was participating in a product giveaway to salarymen returning home late at night. The product was a new energy health food bar from Otsuka Pharmaceutical. In handing over the bar, the cabbie apologized and said in Japanese, “Here have one of these — it doesn’t taste too good…” ??!!

Now, if you’ve been in Japan for a while, you’ll know that this could either mean, “I’m being forced by the firm to give you this, but my advice is don’t eat it,” or “This is pretty good, but I’m being polite and am talking the product down. Now you just have to try it to find out for yourself, right?”

Receiving the bar, we did indeed try it out after alighting, and found that it actually wasn’t too bad.

Munching away, we started thinking about Japanese taxi culture, especially here in Tokyo. Despite the low wages, long hours, difficult city lay-outs, and drunken, sometimes sex-crazed passengers, Japan’s taxi drivers are the salt of the nation, and 99% of them are unfailingly polite. Indeed, one cab company, we forget which, even has its drivers leap across the passenger seat, race you for the door, and open it from the outside for you. This sudden series of movements by the cabbie can be a bit of a surprise when it first happens to you — and even more so when it is pouring with rain. But it certainly does make you remember the extreme politeness of drivers from that particular firm.

There are apparently about 380,000 taxi drivers in Japan, most of whom seem to be servicing Shibuya-Roppongi and the other 5 major centers on the Yamanote line, after 23:00. They belong to 8,048 different companies, about 100 of which operate in Tokyo — so competition is alive and well. Actually, the competition really took off after the government removed both price and licence-limiting controls in 2002, thus causing a surge of newcomers into the market.

There are cab companies of all types, including those with pet taxis, for taking your poodle or chihuahua to the vet — or out on a date. One such company is Taikoh Taxi, which is located in Aichi, and charges JPY2,500 for the first 10km then JPY200/km after that. Although the initial cost is high, riding with your pet for any distance beyond 10km is actually about 2/3 cheaper than a regular cab. In addition to transporting pets, Taikoh also provides pet-sitting, pet-trimming, and pet-feeding services. www.taikoh-taxi.co.jp. Not yet in Tokyo, unfortunately.

Among the other types of services are bridal taxis, which have special cars with high roofs and wide doors to accomodate the bride in her full traditional wedding gown. If you’ve ever seen a bride with her oval headpiece, the tsuno-kakushi, you’ll know what a pain it must be to get into a regular cab. See http://tinyurl.com/gc4ct for an image of the headgear. Other services include non-smoking cabs and welfare cabs — i.e., those fitted out for disabled people.

Probably the best thing about Japanese cabbies is their integrity. Despite drivers traditionally saying, “please don’t leave anything behind,” we have personally forgotten bags, notebook PCs, company files, and books, realizing only later that we’d done so. In EVERY case, we’ve been able to call the cab company and the driver has either directly come back or has passed the package on to another driver to hand-deliver to our address. In other instances, and this happens regularly, if a cab driver picks the wrong route and as a result we get stuck in a traffic jam, he will refund some of the fare from his own pocket, all the while apologizing for not having known any better.

But this is not to say that every cab driver strives for excellence. With the economic setbacks of the 1990′s and the traditional winter migration of workers from the frozen north, there is an increasing number of drivers who simply don’t know where they are going — or they are drunk. The Nikkei recently reported a new cell phone accessory by Tanita, which is an alcohol detector that attaches to any of DoCoMo’s 3G FOMA handsets. Apparently the cab companies plan to make their drivers breathe into the thing at random intervals, and since the FOMA handsets have a camera, the dispatcher can see the person actually doing the breathing.

Although off-season country drivers who don’t know Tokyo present no major challenge to those of us who have lived here for any period of time, it is disconcerting for foreign businesspeople who are new to the city. One way to cope with a lost (or drunk) cabbie this is to be forearmed. We suggest newcomers consider a rental phone from Go Mobile. For a very reasonable JPY150/minute, Go Mobile’s Concierge service provides you with a help desk that will translate cabbie directions and complaints — to/from English and Japanese. http://www.gomobile.co.jp/index_e.html.

As we get closer to Olympic time, infrastructure will either make or break the city. Cab licenses in Vancouver are worth about $1,000,000. The price needs to come down, they need to be more accessible to the average joe like they once were and more cabs need to be on the street, otherwise we’ll see yahoos driving drunk and more instances of road rage.

  • http://www.raj.jp raj

    Two new incidents today. Today, I took five (5) different cabs. Two out of five isn’t so bad, is it?

    Cabbie #1 or we’ll call him Mr. Aggro. I get in the cab and the meter is already at $2.90. Isn’t it supposed to start at $2.58 or something like that? Oh well, NO TIP FOR YOU!

    Cabbie #2 or we’ll call him Mr. Whiner. Upon exiting and asking for my change, Mr. Whiner asks if I was going to leave a tip because he wrote a receipt for $8 on a $5 fare. I said, I didn’t intend to, but since he’s written $8 on the receipt and I was going to write off/expense or otherwise, that $8 was fine. Thereafter he whined that he works for tips.

    Sometimes I wonder if these folks are any better than the panhandlers on the streets.

    Oh, an interesting tidbit, complaint line is 1-888-775-8785.

  • Cosmos client

    Here is my feedback on my experience with “Yellow Cab” from a hotel in downtown Vancouver to Vancouver International Airport the other day (in case you can publish this for me somewhere it will be noticed)

    {QUOTE}

    Driver refused voucher supplied to us by his firm via our tour company for transfer to airport. Says that as we had added in error our departure date from the U.K. (0612 meaning 12th June 2007 in Canada apparently) as well as our Cosmos Tour Code – there is no provision on the voucher anywhere for any date, let alone one written in Canadian style and therefore no argument that the voucher was now invalid (as claimed) – his contract being with our tour company rather than directly with ourselves in any event. It had the tour company’s account code with Yellow Cab clearly rprinted on it so we imagine there would have been no issue with payment by Cosmos subsequently.

    Driver turned up at our hotel in downtown Vancouver almost instantly after being called and just as quickly involved Royal Canadian Mounted Police to intervene when we disputed paying his $29.15 Canadian Dollar fare again directly (airport transfers already paid for in our tour package) resulting in my details being taken down and recorded by RCMP as a common criminal – something I hasten to add I am not !!

    Furthermore, he did not seek a second opinion from Yellow Cab before making his instantaneous refusal of the voucher and, likewise, declined to look at our tour documents proving we were clients of Cosmos, had been staying at the hotel he had picked us up from only an hour earlier, and best of all, had arrived into Canada at Lester B. Pearson Airport, Toronto rather than into Vancouver and this clearly limited any opportunity of using the voucher in question for our transfer required on our inbound journey to the country.

    Yes, he was also Asian/Indian in origin – probably does this type of thing regularly (he was far too quick/rehearsed in his refusal speil and had clearly had experience of issues such as these with other tourists travelling with tour companies using vouchers for their transfers back to/from the airport). Highly suspicious in my humble opinion but, dont’ worry, I am writing to Yellow Cab’s general manager and to the RCMP to complain – with any luck he’ll get to hear about it and wish he had accepted the voucher from me when he had the chance to !!!

    {END QUOTE}

    Thanks for your time reading thus far.

  • me

    Never Call a cab downtown and say you’re going to west vancouver, after one hour of struggling, they told me it’s upto the cabs to take the call!! Apparently they do not like going there when it’s busy downtown so you might end up waiting the whole day, and the dispatch keeps saying it’ll be there, you’re next in line for hours if it pleases you, and then hang up, they won’t let you finish your sentence.

    Editor’s note: the poster provided a fake e-mail address, this posting should be taken with a grain of salt.

  • McLures

    Maclures???? Your kidding, you mean where drivers smoke dope upon going on shift, the top dispatcher is a sex offender, management (your name is Raj-doesn’t sound German?) is a red neck who terrorizes anyone who is not a white male and the cabs take longer not because of a smaller company but because white people are serviced first. Well unless they have an accent even the french are not free of Mr. Hellman. And yes the drivers steal and cheat you even the accountant scours cell phones when he needs a new blackberry!

  • McLures

    oh and whoever wrote July 31st, 2007 at 2:20 pm
    Never Call a cab downtown and say you’re going to west vancouver, after one hour of struggling, they told me it’s upto the cabs to take the call!! Apparently they do not like going there when it’s busy downtown so you might end up waiting the whole day, and the dispatch keeps saying it’ll be there, you’re next in line for hours if it pleases you, and then hang up, they won’t let you finish your sentence.

    Editor’s note: the poster provided a fake e-mail address, this posting should be taken with a grain of salt.

    I can tell ya don’t take it with a grain of salt- open your eyes that’s why trips are passed to other companies!!!!

  • Jason Jimenez

    Does anybody know of any cab service that will transport dogs?

  • Mike

    I take a lot of cabs in Vancouver and have to say that Yellow Cab is the absolute worst. About three months ago I ordered a cab in Kits, and asked to be taken to Metrotown. The fair….. $58. My least favorite part of the terrible ride was when I asked him why we were in downtown (He actually passed SCIENCE WORLD!!!) I refused to pay the full amount and gave him $35 dollars for the trip (funny that I heard no complaints when I asked if he would prefer a call to the police and the BBB).

  • http://www.raj.jp raj

    @Jason there’s a company called Vancouver Dog Taxi – check them out. You can google them.

  • http://www.raj.jp raj

    @Mike going to Metrotown from Kits via taxi is insane – I woulda come downtown and hopped the train but that said, $58 is in line with a trip from Downtown to Surrey so maybe if you’re at the far reaches of Kits? What was the exact route you took and was there heavy traffic or something anomalous going on with the road systems at the time?

    One of my personal biggest gripes at the moment regarding Cab Service in Vancouver is when I try to phone all the cab companies – Yellow, Black Top (including their backdoor line), McLures and Vancouver Taxi, I get a busy tone today (Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @2:30PM) – it strikes me that there is a major shortage of cabs out there… yet the people at City Hall tell us that there are enough cabs on the road. They should give their head a shake.

  • Cab not so fab

    I’ve had good service from Maclures, acceptable service from Yellow, but terrible service from Blacktop / Checker (they are the same company) on several occasions.

    The most recently, my wife arranged for a 5 AM ride to the airport via Blacktop. We waited outside our apartment at the proper time, but the cab never arrived.
    After waiting 10 minutes, I phoned their dispatch while standing out there, and he lied and said the cab had been waiting (right where I was standing), but gave up and left one minute previous. Damn liars! Dispatch said the car was still in the neighbourhood, and would “come back”. So we waited 5 minutes… no cab. I walked two blocks to Broadway and flagged a cab from another company in about 1 minute. Rode to our apartment to pick up the luggage (and spouse!). Still no Blacktop!

    No more Blacktop/Checker! They are on MY blacklist!

  • RANA

    All the Cåb drivers in Vancouver work hard for their living . It’s not easy to drive 12 hours 6 days or 5 days. And I respect them. And I want to thank them for their service which they are providing.

  • http://www.raj.jp raj

    @RANA – there’s a myriad of customer facing jobs that are difficult. Cab service is not an exclusive realm wherein the task and/or the duties are above and beyond any other job out there, and this certainly isn’t a license for someone in that industry to abuse their clientele.

    Right now, cab service in Vancouver is a tightly-controlled cartel. The only way to make this business more customer centric is to truly democratize the process – allow people to choose with their wallet and allow free and open competition in the acquisition of licenses with no cap on the number of licenses which can be granted to enter this profession.

    Having traveled to places like Toronto, New York, Tokyo and even Delhi, I can tell you that there has never been a dearth of public motor-transport. In Vancouver, however, there are (a vast amount of) instances where one may be without cab service and may have to choose alternate means – walk, bus, boat, helicopter and/or opt to cancel meetings which, on a micro level, adversely affects the local economy.

    Imagine more cabs out there. You wouldn’t have to work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. You could rest … and a rested cabbie is a less bitchy cabbie, right?

    Well, hopefully.